Comments on: A New Trick for the Trickle: The Future of Madrid’s Manzanares River http://www.notesfrommadrid.com/2008/04/23/a-new-trick-for-the-trickle-the-future-of-madrids-manzanares-river/ A new look at the city of Madrid. Photos, news, podcasts, Madrid secrets, videos, bars - a real insider's guide. Wed, 17 Sep 2008 19:08:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Hitesh Sawlani http://www.notesfrommadrid.com/2008/04/23/a-new-trick-for-the-trickle-the-future-of-madrids-manzanares-river/comment-page-1/#comment-783 Hitesh Sawlani Fri, 30 May 2008 00:14:03 +0000 http://www.notesfrommadrid.com/2008/04/23/a-new-trick-for-the-trickle-the-future-of-madrids-manzanares-river/#comment-783 I like quite close to where that photo was taken! Apparently some (quite a few) decades ago the river had a lot more water flowing through and it even had a beach where people would come and bathe in the summers but due to pollution and such it had to be closed down. I like quite close to where that photo was taken!
Apparently some (quite a few) decades ago the river had a lot more water flowing through and it even had a beach where people would come and bathe in the summers but due to pollution and such it had to be closed down.

]]> By: comfy_chair http://www.notesfrommadrid.com/2008/04/23/a-new-trick-for-the-trickle-the-future-of-madrids-manzanares-river/comment-page-1/#comment-756 comfy_chair Wed, 07 May 2008 13:54:10 +0000 http://www.notesfrommadrid.com/2008/04/23/a-new-trick-for-the-trickle-the-future-of-madrids-manzanares-river/#comment-756 I was recently cycling past the river, near the M30 and Casa de Campo boundary, and saw a guy fishing. I was suprised when he caught a very large fish. I would not like to eat it, but hte fish seemed fat and healthy ... and so did the fisherman. Cleaning up rivers world-wide is a priority. Mark I was recently cycling past the river, near the M30 and Casa de Campo boundary, and saw a guy fishing. I was suprised when he caught a very large fish. I would not like to eat it, but hte fish seemed fat and healthy … and so did the fisherman.

Cleaning up rivers world-wide is a priority.
Mark

]]> By: José Miguel http://www.notesfrommadrid.com/2008/04/23/a-new-trick-for-the-trickle-the-future-of-madrids-manzanares-river/comment-page-1/#comment-729 José Miguel Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:22:19 +0000 http://www.notesfrommadrid.com/2008/04/23/a-new-trick-for-the-trickle-the-future-of-madrids-manzanares-river/#comment-729 Un embajador alemán comentó que el Manzanares tenía la ventaja de ser "navegable en coche y a caballo". Otra persona propuso que en verano se regase el río para que no levantara polvo. Después de construido el Puente de Segovia las burlas continuaron. Lope de Vega propuso que se comprase un río o que se vendiese el puente. Góngora volvió a burlarse: “Duélete de esa puente, Manzanares, / mira que por ahí dice la gente / que no eres río para media puente / y que ella es puente para treinta mares”. Como curiosidad, en aquella época la palabra puente era femenina y se decía "la puente" igual que hoy decimos "la fuente". Un embajador alemán comentó que el Manzanares tenía la ventaja de ser “navegable en coche y a caballo”. Otra persona propuso que en verano se regase el río para que no levantara polvo.
Después de construido el Puente de Segovia las burlas continuaron. Lope de Vega propuso que se comprase un río o que se vendiese el puente. Góngora volvió a burlarse: “Duélete de esa puente, Manzanares, / mira que por ahí dice la gente / que no eres río para media puente / y que ella es puente para treinta mares”. Como curiosidad, en aquella época la palabra puente era femenina y se decía “la puente” igual que hoy decimos “la fuente”.

]]> By: Katie http://www.notesfrommadrid.com/2008/04/23/a-new-trick-for-the-trickle-the-future-of-madrids-manzanares-river/comment-page-1/#comment-728 Katie Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:53:45 +0000 http://www.notesfrommadrid.com/2008/04/23/a-new-trick-for-the-trickle-the-future-of-madrids-manzanares-river/#comment-728 If you try to go on a Friday or a day with less-than-perfect weather (or the month of June?), I think you'll find it less crowded. Also, try walking upriver a ways. Generally the "domingueros" don't make it terribly far. If you try to go on a Friday or a day with less-than-perfect weather (or the month of June?), I think you’ll find it less crowded. Also, try walking upriver a ways. Generally the “domingueros” don’t make it terribly far.

]]> By: bill http://www.notesfrommadrid.com/2008/04/23/a-new-trick-for-the-trickle-the-future-of-madrids-manzanares-river/comment-page-1/#comment-726 bill Wed, 23 Apr 2008 23:02:26 +0000 http://www.notesfrommadrid.com/2008/04/23/a-new-trick-for-the-trickle-the-future-of-madrids-manzanares-river/#comment-726 Yes, Sunday lunch on the terraza at Casa Mingo, followed by a stroll down the river nearby is one of my favourite summer pastimes. I guess they're not going to redevelop that part of the river because it never had the M30 next to it anyway (though I could be wrong). I went up to La Pedriza last summer but found it too crowded - every swimming hole seemed occupied by bathers. Maybe I just timed it wrong. Yes, Sunday lunch on the terraza at Casa Mingo, followed by a stroll down the river nearby is one of my favourite summer pastimes. I guess they’re not going to redevelop that part of the river because it never had the M30 next to it anyway (though I could be wrong). I went up to La Pedriza last summer but found it too crowded – every swimming hole seemed occupied by bathers. Maybe I just timed it wrong.

]]> By: Katie http://www.notesfrommadrid.com/2008/04/23/a-new-trick-for-the-trickle-the-future-of-madrids-manzanares-river/comment-page-1/#comment-725 Katie Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:27:23 +0000 http://www.notesfrommadrid.com/2008/04/23/a-new-trick-for-the-trickle-the-future-of-madrids-manzanares-river/#comment-725 I agree, it'll be interesting to see how the whole thing turns out. The river is also fairly pleasant north of Principe Pío, near the Paseo de la Florida (and a great restaurant, Casa Mingo). But I have to say my favorite spot on the Manzanares is up in <a href="http://www.notesfrommadrid.com/2007/12/05/around-madrid-la-pedriza/" rel="nofollow">La Pedriza</a>, where I've swum twice in great swimming holes (and plan to go back for more this summer!). I agree, it’ll be interesting to see how the whole thing turns out.

The river is also fairly pleasant north of Principe Pío, near the Paseo de la Florida (and a great restaurant, Casa Mingo). But I have to say my favorite spot on the Manzanares is up in La Pedriza, where I’ve swum twice in great swimming holes (and plan to go back for more this summer!).

]]> By: bill http://www.notesfrommadrid.com/2008/04/23/a-new-trick-for-the-trickle-the-future-of-madrids-manzanares-river/comment-page-1/#comment-723 bill Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:29:21 +0000 http://www.notesfrommadrid.com/2008/04/23/a-new-trick-for-the-trickle-the-future-of-madrids-manzanares-river/#comment-723 It has been interesting to see such a project take shape. A few years ago Madrid was permanently "patas arriba" because the council decided not only to build the tunnels for the M30, but also to carry out other major roadworks, and to even close a couple of metro lines for good measure. All at the same time. I couldn't believe how a council could have the right to cut off whole barrios without any apparent consultation (Legazpi was left without a metro and bus service for the entire summer). On top of that, the works took place without the required environmental impact study (the council tried to get round this by claiming the M30 was a regular city street!), caused immense polution due to the dust thrown up, and nearly dried up Madrid's water supply because it all happened during a drought. But then again, I have always admired how quickly things actually get pushed through here compared to England (where it would probably still be in the consultation stage). Now that the worst is over I can't wait until the river development is complete. Madrid has been crying out for this. It has been interesting to see such a project take shape. A few years ago Madrid was permanently “patas arriba” because the council decided not only to build the tunnels for the M30, but also to carry out other major roadworks, and to even close a couple of metro lines for good measure. All at the same time.

I couldn’t believe how a council could have the right to cut off whole barrios without any apparent consultation (Legazpi was left without a metro and bus service for the entire summer). On top of that, the works took place without the required environmental impact study (the council tried to get round this by claiming the M30 was a regular city street!), caused immense polution due to the dust thrown up, and nearly dried up Madrid’s water supply because it all happened during a drought.

But then again, I have always admired how quickly things actually get pushed through here compared to England (where it would probably still be in the consultation stage). Now that the worst is over I can’t wait until the river development is complete. Madrid has been crying out for this.

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